Wednesday, 14 June 2017

Alternate Best Supporting Actor 1968: Results

5. Trevor Howard in The Charge of the Light Brigade - Howard gives a properly strict and slightly ridiculous portrayal fitting to a man who cares more about his stature as an officer than for any of his men. 

Best Scene: Strange seduction.
4. Klaus Kinski in The Great Silence - Kinski gives an effective villainous performance interestingly by taking a rather low key approach showing his Loco as always taking a calm and easy approach to his killings.

Best Scene: Loco wins.
3. Ian Holm in The Bofors Gun - Holm makes an impact through his limited screentime by so effectively presenting the incisiveness of the one man willing to confront both his immediate superior and his out of control fellow soldier.

Best Scene: Flynn confronts O'Rourke.
2. Tom Courtenay in A Dandy in Aspic - Courtenay gives a brilliant performance that creates a complex portrait of a spy who purposefully hates everything and everyone as a means of defense, and rises far above the one note villain the film likely would have settled for.

Best Scene: Gatiss visits Eberline in the hotel. 
1. Tony Curtis in The Boston Strangler - Curtis gives a chilling and effective performance which never relishes in the idea of playing a serial killer, instead offering a haunting and vivid depiction of a psychotic.

Best Scene: DeSalvo's breakdown. 
Updated Overall

Next Year: 2003 Lead

57 comments:

Luke Higham said...

Frost
Thornton
Duvall
Bruhl
Dobronravov

Luke Higham said...

And Crowe.

Luke Higham said...

Ratings and thoughts on:
Sidney Poitier and Abbey Lincoln in For Love Of Ivy
George Segal and Rod Steiger in No Way To Treat A Lady
Jean-Louis Trintignant in The Man Who Lies
Fred Astaire in Finian's Rainbow
Laurent Terzieff in Woman In Chains
The Cast Of Isadora
Orson Welles in The Immortal Story
The Cast of Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell

Robert MacFarlane said...

I'll add Campbell Scott in The Secret Lives of Dentists to the 2003 pile.

RatedRStar said...

I am more confident that Campbell Scott will appear for 2002

Robert Duvall - Open Range
Daniel Bruhl - Good Bye, Lenin!
Billy Bob Thornton - Bad Santa
Alex Frost - Elephant
Ivan Dobronravov - The Return

RatedRStar said...

I do have a spot for Johnny Depp in Pirates in the Caribbean (not just because Pirates was in Kingdom Hearts 2) =D its just very difficult to wrestle that award out of Bill Murray for me, maybe because its Bill Murray doing Bill Murray but on auto pilot.

omar said...

Frost - Elephant
Thornton - Bad Santa
Girard - The Barbarian Invasions
Bruhl - Good bye, Lenin!
Dobronravov - The Return

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Can I have your supporting lineup. I do think Isaacs is supporting because his scenes as the father come from Wendy's POV.

RatedRStar said...

Francis Ng - Infernal Affairs II
Liu Kai Chi - Infernal Affairs II
Ray Liotta - Identity
Charles Dance - Swimming Pool
Jason Issacs - Peter Pan

Luke: This is just for the moment though, do you any other suggestions?

Calvin Law said...

Bruhl and Thornton, please. And am really interested in Dobronravov, need to catch up on lots of 1968 performances first though.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: Omar mentioned Konstantin Lavronenko in The Return.

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: And Ng and Chi could share a slot as well.

RatedRStar said...

Luke: To be fair I thought Francis Ng was on a different level to pretty much everyone in IFII so Liu could be replaced =D.

What you getting for your birthday? =D

Luke Higham said...

RatedRStar: A few DVDs. I'm getting Silence, Rogue One and Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them. Should be getting some new clothes and aftershave. :)

I hope you have a great birthday tomorrow. :)

Calvin Law said...

I'm not too fussed if Liu doesn't get a review, but I really want Ng to get one, agree with RatedRStar wholeheartedly.

Luke Higham said...

Calvin and RatedRStar: I haven't seen Infernal Affairs II so I'll take your word for it. :)

RatedRStar said...

Luke: Its a just fine film I would say, certainly not on par with the first.

Luke: Thank you I hope you do 2.

Calvin: Liu was requested for 2010 so I agree Liu isnt really a major option for 2003.

Charles Heiston said...

Frost in Elephant(My win)
Bruhl in Goodbye, Lenin!
Duvall in Open Range
Thornton in Bad Santa
Girard in The Barbarian Invasions or Campbell Scott

Alex Marqués said...

I actually don't consider the first one to be THAT great. Many people say The Departed is much worse than the original, but when they're calling IA a much more subtle film, I just think they've witnessed a different film cut without those awful flashback montages. It's still a solid film, but I'll take the remake any day.

RatedRStar said...

My only major complaint with The Departed is Damons performance vs Andy Lau and Martin Sheens death scene, "You mugs gotta light"? lol at least Anthony Wong nearly got away from them lol.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And rating and thoughts on Jeanne Moreau in The Immortal Story.

Calvin Law said...

Alex: The Departed is an infinitely better directed film, but Infernal Affairs stays with me in a more powerful fashion. I'd say the death scenes is the main thing Scorsese does in a far better fashion.

Calvin Law said...

And there is one flashback, the one at the end, which amazing, even if Edison Chen struggles to hold together a good performance for a few seconds.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And Petula Clark in Finian's Rainbow.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Lastly, anyone else of note from Woman in Chains and The Man Who Lies.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Could I have your thoughts on Who Wants To Live Forever from Highlander. It turns out, that it was written for the film.

Calvin Law said...

It's cool that Robards won over Fonda in the end.

94dfk1 said...

Louis: Could Pine and Piven go up to a 4 each for Smokin' Aces? They're the highlights of the movie for me and they understood exactly what kind of movie they're in, or at least the direction the movie should've taken lol.

Oh and your 90s and 2010s casting for Buddy Israel and Darwin Tremor? Don't really care for the other characters in the movie.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I'm particularly excited about Crowe's review. Although I think that if anyone will take Lang down, it'll probably be Min-Sik.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Films to Watch:
Curse Of The Black Pearl (Re-Watch)
Finding Nemo (I'm amazed you haven't seen this film yet)
The Triplets Of Belleville
Elf
Saraband (Sequel to Scenes From A Marriage)
Time Of The Wolf (Michael Haneke)
A Mighty Wind
Girl With A Pearl Earring
Young Adam
Freaky Friday (Curtis is great here)
Bruce Almighty
The Best Of Youth (4.2 on Letterboxd and 8.5 on IMDB)
The Barbarian Invasions
The Brown Bunny
The Green Butchers (Mads Mikkelsen)
The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions
The Dreamers
Fear X (Nicolas Winding Refn)
A Tale Of Two Sisters (Kim Jee-Woon)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter And Spring
Holes
Infernal Affairs II and III
Willard (Crispin Glover)
Osama
Veronica Guerin (Cate Blanchett)
Intolerable Cruelty
Brother Bear
Old School
Pieces Of April (Patricia Clarkson)
Thirteen (Holly Hunter)
The Rundown
Zatoichi
Mona Lisa Smile
The Life Of David Gale
Down With Love
Under The Tuscan Sun
Last Life In The Universe (Tadanobu Asano)
The Missing (Tommy Lee Jones/Cate Blanchett)
Ned Kelly (Heath Ledger)
Calendar Girls

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: I think Crowe's more likely, If I'm being honest. Louis said quite awhile back that he was reviewing Crowe because it's an incredibly interesting one to review and could potentially take the win.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: And The Secret Lives Of Dentists.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Louis: Given that you've seen School of Rock already and haven't cared for it, I won't ask you to rewatch it. Instead, could I have your thoughts on the film overall, and rating and thoughts on Black?

Also, are you considering upgrading Ken Watanabe for The Last Samurai? As you're re-evaluating Robbins, I'd be pretty disappointed if the choice of the nominees is less than a 3.5 at the very least.

Luke Higham said...

Tahmeed: Watanabe is a 3.5, the rating hasn't been updated on the review.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

I'm checking out Elephant tonight, I hope Frost's performance lives up to the hype for me.

Robert MacFarlane said...

I hope Crudup gets upgraded for Big Fish. I honestly think he's the film's MVP.

Luke Higham said...

All I remember from Frost's performance was the Eeny Meeny Miny Moe ending.

Charles Heiston said...

I watched Elephant somewhat recently and i think the film is incredible and effecting. It could be considered a director's film by some but i think Frost brought a lot to the film, the whole finale of the school shooting is an incredible sequence for Frost's performance.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: I haven't seen it in 5-6 years so my memory of his performance isn't clear enough aside from the aforementioned ending and a moment where he plays the piano.

Tahmeed Chowdhury said...

Just finished Elephant, and I'll have to concur with Luke on this one: there isn't enough material given to Frost. He's a high 3.5/low 4 for me.
As for the film, I found it visually compelling, at the very least. Van Sant's direction is pretty damn great, but those mostly unfocused first 45 minutes, where Frost barely has 2 scenes, could have been trimmed down. The final sequence is obviously the best part of the film, but even the impact of that is rather muted; although I guess that was intentional.

Luke Higham said...

Charles: It's still a very good request, because I think Louis would've avoided Elephant, due to his disdain for Van Sant.

Charles Heiston said...

Tahmeed: Glad to hear you're still positive about it!

Luke: Yeah, i doubt Louis would've reviewed Frost given as you said.

omar said...

Just saw Elephant too and i really like it, Frost is a 4,5 for me and i would put him in supporting since i think is an ensemble movie.

Anonymous said...

Louis: Your thoughts on Jimmy Olsen getting killed in Batman vs. Superman.

Luke Higham said...

Anonymous: I'm pretty sure he's still pissed off about that. :)

Anonymous said...

Luke: Yeah. Poor Jimmy. :(

Robert MacFarlane said...

Jimmy was in BvS?

*Googles it*

Jesus, Zack Snyder.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Your thoughts on What is a Youth from Romeo And Juliet and your winners for 1968.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: You left out David Hemmings from the overall for The Charge Of The Light Brigade.

Luke Higham said...

Louis: Do you think Tom Hardy's currently the closest thing we have to an Oliver Reed.

Louis Morgan said...

Luke:

Poitier - 4(As typical extremely charming which works wonders for all of the directly romantic scenes. On that point he shares great chemistry with Lincoln though and they make the growth of their relationship particularly natural and endearing. Poitier though also does well in the more comedic scenes portraying an enjoyable frustration towards the situation he finds himself in. There is a shady side to his character which Poitier does play into his role, but makes it a pretty lightweight element in his performance which is fitting to the film.)

Lincoln - 4(Again terrific chemistry with Poitier. She's very effective in her performance though in portraying the greater confidence and agency she reveals to grow as the film proceeds. She takes control all the more in each scene while also revealing well the growing frustrations in her character in a sometime humorous way but she also balances it with an earned pathos regarding her past treatments.)

Segal - 3.5(His Bafta nom was rather severe category fraud by the way. Segal though is in his typical lead though this time as a cop. Segal adjusts though well enough in bringing his usual kind of hapless charm along with just enough weight to the serial killer situation he's in. It's a good example of one his usual leading turns.)

Steiger - 1.5(Okay now as I see more of Steiger, I'm seeing more and more of his other side as a performer. This performance is essentially everything that Tony Curtis so effectively avoided in "The Boston Strangler". Steiger is so ridiculous here as he oversells every scene he is in, and it is not at all believable as this serial killer. He's a full blown cartoon and fails to find any truth in his, admittedly, difficult material. Steiger never feels like he embodies the role, it just feels more like him showing off which is ill-fitting to the tone of the film.)

Trintignant - 3.5(An interesting performance to be sure though one intentionally that seems to be a constant limbo. Trintignant very much keeps the questions always intact giving this performance that randomly goes from adrift to a sudden extreme concern. Trintignant actually does meld the two sides well and it is fitting to the nature of his strange character.)

Astaire - 3.5(A good performance that sort of a "I still got it" type of turn from him. It's very much old fashioned Astaire which is perfect for the role, and as typical he makes for one endearing sorta oddball who loves a good dance now and then.)

Terzieff - 3(Like the film itself his performance never quite takes off. He sets it up just find as this alluring creep basically, but once he sets that up that's about it.)

Redgrave - 2.5(She comes up with very exact American accent for herself, and similarly exact manner. I found this style of hers here though rather tiresome very quickly, and actually off-putting in a way it should have not been.)

The supporting cast is okay, but no one makes much of an impact due to very limited parts.

Welles - 4(Spent Welles is always something worthwhile to be sure, and that works here in creating just this sort symbol of a man haunted by life and memories in general. All of his few scenes are notable just through his sheer presence as he grants such a powerful weight to his storytelling.)

Moreau - 4(Moreau seems often set for a most atypical allure which she pulls off her quite effectively as usual, but also as usual she is not one note in this. She crafts a mystery to her role, as she seems to represent an intrigue even past herself.)

Lollobrigida - 4(Her performance is a very careful maneuvering of the various requirements of her parts that she needs to play and she manages to pull it off quite well. There's a splendid energy to her performance as she strikes the right sort of mischievousness as she sort of acts as the ringmaster to the circus presented around the film. It's a good performance as she carefully plays the straight man or not depending on the scene.)

Louis Morgan said...

Silvers - 3.5(Silvers doing his typical thing which is more than enough for me. He's amusing as usual in doing his rather nervous fellow which is a great fit here as the man who needs to keep a very important secret from his wife.)

Lawford - 3(Makes the least impact of the three fathers but he works when he's with the other and is mildly amusing in his main scene with Lollobrigida.)

Savalas - 4(A very funny performance from him as he gets to be an enjoyable attempted charmer in his scenes with Lollobrigida, and appropriately hilarious in portraying his constant petulant anger when fighting with Lee Grant as his wife. He's then though surprisingly moving at the end of the film as his character takes it upon himself to truly be a father, and his last scene with Grant is surprisingly affecting.)

Grant - 4(She's rather funny herself delivering every biting insult against Savalas so effectively. Again though she manages to turn it all around so well in her final scene with Savalas, partially because even the earlier scenes she carefully played it as mean but not too mean.)

Winters - 4.5(Steals the show as per usual. Winters makes the most out of every second of her screentime. She is hilarious in every moment in portraying the confusion of her wife, and has great oddball chemistry with Silvers as they never quite seem on the same wavelength in the right way. Winters continues to be highly entertaining later though as she goes from overt sympathy, to overt anger, back to sympathy again so naturally and in such a funny manner.)

Clark - 3(She sings better than she acts of course but luckily here she mostly just has to sing. When she does act her though she is mildly charming which luckily is acceptable for her part that needs to be mildly charming at least.)

Who Wants to Live Forever -(Well the song is actually quite ridiculously repetitive in terms of the majority of it except really except a brief segue, and the occasional random alternate lyric. You know that it really doesn't matter as it is still glorious in only the way it could be with Queen and Mercury. They throw almost everything in its grand orchestration that only builds with one addition after another, and you know it works, even though it really shouldn't.)

What is Youth - (Beautiful sort of neo-medievil ballad fitting to a proper minstrel. It's a great piece for the story itself as through every one of those strums of the lute, and vocals is filled with such pathos and passion. It is of the period, yet modernized upon it. The instrumental passage just before outro though is the most haunting as the woodwinds almost take over in such romantic sweep.)

Louis Morgan said...

1968 Winners:

Director: Sergio Leone - Once Upon a Time in the West
Production Design: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Sound Editing: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Sound Mixing: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Score: Once Upon a Time in the West
Editing: Once Upon a Time in the West
Visual Effects: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Costume Design: Romeo and Juliet
Cinematography: Once Upon a Time in the West
Makeup and Hairstyling: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Song: "What is Youth" - Romeo and Juliet
Original Screenplay: Once Upon a Time in the West
Adapted Screenplay: Romeo and Juliet

Yes actually he is a lot like Reed now that you mention it, particularly in terms of when they go for overt charm.

94dk1:

Yes they could.

90's:

Buddy Israel: Jeffrey Combs
Darwin Tremor: Ethan Hawke

10's:

Buddy Israel: Bradley Cooper
Darwin Tremor: Jack Reynor

Tahmeed:

Well I haven't seen it since 03, but I really did not enjoy it then. I will admit the liar revealed is not usually my favorite plotline and this is what the whole film was based around. Further than that though I just didn't really enjoy it as a comedy, and part of that for me was Black's performance. I can like Black, but honestly usually in specific doses. This is all Black all the time and which is a bit of an over saturation for me.

Anonymous:

Another example of Snyder having such a strange view of the source material. That death would be like what you might do to Scrappy Do, but I've never hated Jimmy Olsen nor do people in general as far as I can tell. It seemed mean spirited towards a character that if used well should have brought some levity to the proceedings. It's an even stranger side note that apparently Eisenberg saying it was a bad idea is what caused him to be cast as Luthor.

Deiner said...

Great job Louis. As to 2003, these are the possible performances I can think of:
- Daniel Bruhl in "Goodbye Lenin!".
- Emile Hirsch in "The Mudge Boy" (only if you're fond of his acting).
- Ewan McGregor in "Young Adam" (plus, Tilda Swinton).
- Ivan Dobronravov in "The Return".
- Luis Tosar in "Take My Eyes".
- Michael Pitt in "The Dreamers" (plus, Eva Green <3).
- Nao Ōmori in "Vibrator".

Films you may also want to check out:
- "A Mighty Wind" (love this movie).
- "Fear and Trembling" (Sylvie Testud is really good).
- "Japanese Story" (Toni Collette <3).
- "My Life Without Me" (Sarah Polley is great).
- "She's One of Us" (Sasha Andres is really good).
- "Since Otar Left".
- "Swimming Pool" (Charlotte Rampling is brilliant).
- "The Mother" (Anne Reid is great).
- "Time of the Wolf".

Anonymous said...

Louis: What did you think of the liar reveal in A Bug's Life (if you remember it)?

Louis Morgan said...

Deiner:

Thanks, and I'll keep those in mind.

Anonymous:

Didn't care for it there either. I don't even like in films I like, like Rango for example. The problem is they always follow the same formula to a tee. The character leaves, he has some sort of heart to heart, then he comes back. Rinse and repeat every time.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous: He's co-lead with Costner.